ORPHIC FRAGMENT 59

OTTO KERN

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SUMMARY: Fragment 59 says that Zeus begat children by Rhea, by his daughter Core (Persephone), and that he took his own sister Hera as his wife.

59. (47) Πρεσβεία περί των Χριστιανών Ἀθηναγόρου 32 p. 42, 18 Schw.:

Τοὺς μὲν οὖν θαυμαστὸν οὐδὲν λογοποιεῖν περὶ ἡμῶν ἃ περὶ τῶν σφετέρων λέγουσι θεῶν --- καὶ 〈γὰρ〉 τὰ πάθη αὐτῶν δεικνύουσι μυστήρια· χρῆν δ´ αὐτούς, εἰ δεινὸν τὸ ἐπ´ ἀδείας καὶ ἀδιαφόρως μίγνυσθαι κρίνειν ἔμελλον, ἢ τὸν Δία μεμισηκέναι, ἐκ μητρὸς μὲν Ῥέας θυγατρὸς δὲ Κόρης πεπαιδοποιημένον, γυναικὶ δὲ τῇ ἰδίᾳ ἀδελφῇ χρώμενον, ἢ τὸν τούτων ποιητὴν Ὀρφέα, ὅτι καὶ ἀνόσιον ὑπὲρ τὸν Θυέστην καὶ μιαρὸν ἐποίησεν τὸν Δία· καὶ γὰρ οὗτος τῇ θυγατρὶ κατὰ χρησμὸν ἐμίγη, βασιλεῦσαι θέλων καὶ [Θυέστης] ἐκδικηθῆναι --- ἡμεῖς δὲ τοσοῦτον . . .

“It is, however, nothing wonderful that they should get up tales about us such as they tell of their own Gods, of the incidents of whose lives they make Mysteries. But it behoved them, if they meant to condemn shameless and promiscuous intercourse, to hate either Zeus, who begat children of his mother Rhea and his daughter Kore, and took his own sister to wife, or Orpheus, the inventor of these tales, which made Zeus more unholy and detestable than Thyestes himself; for the latter defiled his daughter in pursuance of an oracle, and when he wanted to obtain the kingdom and avenge himself. (trans. Rev. B. P. Pratten, 1885)

Cf. Πρὸς Ἕλληνας Τατιανοῦ 8 b-c p. 9, 10 Schw.:

Ζεὺς τῆι (Mue.] καὶ MPV) θυγατρὶ συγγίνεται, καὶ ἡ θυγάτηρ ἀπ' αὐτοῦ κυεῖ. μαρτυρήσει μοι νύν Ἐλευσὶς καὶ δράκων ὁ μυστικὸς καὶ Ὀρφεύς ὁ ‘θύρας δ’ ἐπίθεσθε βεβήλοις’ λέγων v. infra s. ΙΕΡΟΙ ΛΟΓΟΙ et ΔΙΑΘΗΚΑΙ.

“Zeus has intercourse with his own daughter, who becomes pregnant by him. I may instance, too, Eleusis, and the mystic Dragon, and Orpheus, who says, ‘Close the gates against the profane!’ ” (trans. J.E. Ryland, 1885)

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