ORPHIC FRAGMENT 185

OTTO KERN

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SUMMARY: In this fragment, Athena is the leader of the Couretes, according to Orpheus.

185. (134) σχόλιον Πρόκλου επὶ Κρατύλου Πλάτωνος 406d p. 112, 14 Pasqu.:

νῦν οὖν ὁ Σωκράτης τὴν μὲν φρουρητικὴν διὰ τοῦ τῆς Παλλάδος ἀνυμνεῖ ὀνόματος, τὴν δὲ τελεσιουργὸν διὰ τοῦ τῆς Ἀθηνᾶς. τὴν οὖν ἔνρυθμον χορείαν διὰ τῆς κινήσεως ὑποφαίνει, ἧς καὶ μεταδέδωκεν πρωτίστηι μὲν τῆι Κουρητικῆι τάξει, δευτέρως δὲ καὶ τοῖς ἄλλοις θεοῖς· ἔστιν γὰρ ἡ θεὸς κατὰ ταύτην τὴν δύναμιν ἡγεμὼν τῶν Κουρήτων, ὥς φησιν Ὀρφεύς.

“Now therefore Socrates celebrates her guardian power, through the name of Pallas; but her perfective power through that of Minerva (Ἀθηνᾶ). She is the cause therefore of orderly and measured motion, which she first imparts to the Curetic order, and afterwards to the other Gods. For Minerva according to this power is the leader of the Curetes, as Orpheus says, (whence also, as well as those divinities she is adorned with empyrean arms, through which she represses all disorder, preserves the demiurgic series immoveable, and unfolds dancing through rhythmical motion.)”

(trans. Thomas Taylor, 1816)

Lobeck I 541; Poerner De Curet. et Corybant. 373.

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