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SUMMARY: This fragment discusses the relationship between Anange and the Moirai.

126. σχόλιον Πρόκλου επὶ Πολιτείας Πλάτωνος II 207, 14 Dr.:

Preceding section: (ὥστ᾿ εἰ τὴν προτέραν ἐκίνει τὸ πᾶν θεός, τὴν ἐναντίαν ἐκείνῃ τὸ κινοῦν [οὐ]κ ἔ[στι θεῖον. θεὸν] δὲ τὴν Ἀνάγκην [καὶ] μεγίστην εἶναι φήσομεν, ἐπεὶ καὶ τὰς Μοίρας τὰς τῆς Ἀνάγκης παῖδας δηλώ[σει ὁ] προφήτης, τὸν νοῦν τῆς Λαχέσ[εως ἐνδιδοὺς] ταῖς ψυχαῖς, νοερός τις ὢν καὶ αὐτός· ὥστε πολλῷ πλέον νοεραὶ αἱ Μοῖραι· νοεραὶ δὲ οὖσαι καὶ ταῖς ὅλαις ἐφεστῶσαι περιφοραῖς θεαί τινές εἰσιν· ὥστε πολλῷ μειζόνως ἡ Ἀνάγκη <ἡ> γεννησαμένη τὰς Μοίρας θεός. οὐδ᾿ ἄρα τὴν Εἱμαρμένην καὶ τὴν Ἀνάγκην κατ᾿ αὐτὴν τὴν Πλάτωνος κρίσιν συνάγειν εἰς ἓν δυνατόν, μὴ παντάπασιν ἀπᾴδοντα γράφειν τῶν ἐκείνου θέλοντας.)

τίνα οὖν ἡμεῖς τὴν θεὸν ταύτην εἶναι φήσομεν; ἢ δῆλον ὅτι τοῖς ῥήμασιν ἑπόμενοι, μητέρα μὲν αὐτὴν τῶν Μοιρῶν ὑμνουμένην ἀκούοντες, ἡγεμόνα δὲ τῆς κοσμικῆς ἁπάσης τάξεως, τῆς ἐν ψυχαῖς, τῆς ἐν φύσεσιν, συνέχουσαν δὲ ἀκλινῶς τὰ πάντα καὶ ὁρίζουσαν, ὅπου τεθὲν ἕκαστον συμπληρώσει τὸν κόσμον ἐν τῶι πρέποντι σχήματι, ταύτην ἐκείνην εἶναι τὴν παρὰ τοῖς θεολόγοις καλουμένην Θέμιν (Θεογονία Ἡσιόδου 901 [1]); ἣν τὸ ὑπερβαίνειν ἐγχειροῦν ἀθέμιτον μὲν εἶναι λέγομεν, ὑπερβαίνειν δὲ ὅμως μὴ δύνασθαι. τίνα γὰρ ἄλλην μητέρα Μοιρῶν ἢ ταύτην ἐκείνων ὑμνούντων ἠκούσαμεν; οἶδα μὲν οὖν, ὅτι καὶ Μοίρας ἄλλας Ὀρφεύς, εἰ καὶ τοῖς αὐτοῖς ὀνόμασι χρώμενος, ἀπ’ αὐτῶν προελθεῖν φησιν τῶν πρωτίστων θεῶν, ἐπέκεινα καὶ τῆς Κρόνου βασιλείας καὶ τῶν νοερῶν ὅλως διακόσμων· ἀλλὰ κἀκεῖνος ἄλλην Ἀνάγκην παρήγαγεν πρὸ τῶν Μοιρῶν, στυγερῶπά τε Ἀνάγκην λέγων προελθεῖν ἀπ’ ἐκείνων.

“Who, in fact, will we say is this Goddess? That is manifest in the verses we are following, we hear she is lauded as the mother of the Mírai (Μοῖραι), and consequently, the leader of the whole worldly order, from within souls, from within natures, and holding all things together without swerving, and laying out boundaries, where she placed each world in completion in suitable form. Is this being the one who is called Thǽmis (Θέμις) by the theologians [1]? We say that to transgress this is undertaking what is unlawful, and yet we are not able to transgress. For who other than this one, have we heard sung as the mother of the Mírai? I do indeed know, that Orphéfs (Ὀρφεύς) knew another Mírai, even if he is calling them by the same names, from their having proceeded forward, he says, from the very first Gods, even before Krónos the king and the whole of the intellectual orders. But the latter introduced another Anángî (Ἀνάγκη) before (πρὸ [2]) the Mírai, saying that hateful-faced Anángî proceeds from them.”

(trans. by the author)


[1] Θεογονία Ἡσιόδου 901:

δεύτερον ἠγάγετο λιπαρὴν Θέμιν, ἣ τέκεν Ὥρας,

Εὐνουμίην τε Δίκην τε καὶ Εἰρήνην τεθαλυῖαν,

αἳ ἔργ᾽ ὠρεύουσι καταθνητοῖσι βροτοῖσι,

Μοίρας θ᾽, ᾗ πλείστην τιμὴν πόρε μητίετα Ζεύς,

Κλωθώ τε Λάχεσίν τε καὶ Ἄτροπον, αἵτε διδοῦσι

θνητοῖς ἀνθρώποισιν ἔχειν ἀγαθόν τε κακόν τε.

“Next he (Ζεύς) married bright Themis who bore the Horae (Hours),

and Eunomia (Order), Diké (Justice), and blooming Eirene (Peace),

who mind the works of mortal men,

and the Moerae (Fates) to whom wise Zeus gave the greatest honor,

Clotho, and Lachesis, and Atropos who give

mortal men evil and good to have.”

(trans. Hugh G. Evelyn-White, 1914)

[2] Translator’s note: This appears to be illogical, because the text seems to imply that Anángî exists both before the Mírai and yet is born from them. Presenting an Orphic idea, Próklos is talking about “another” (ἄλλην) Anángî, so are we to understand that there are two Necessities or even more?

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