ORPHIC FRAGMENT 202

OTTO KERN

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SUMMARY: According to this fragment, theologists refer to two types of health, one to Asclepius, being beyond the ordinary course of nature, and the other prior to this God which is produced from Persuasion and Eros.

202. (272) σχόλιον Πρόκλου επὶ Τιμαίου Πλάτωνος 33 a (II 63, 29 Diehl):

διὸ καὶ οἱ θεολόγοι τὴν μὲν εἰς Ἀσκληπιὸν ἀναφέρουσιν ὑγείαν, τὴν ἰατρικὴν πᾶσαν τοῦ παρὰ φύσιν εἴτε ἀεὶ τὸ παρὰ φύσιν γεννῶσι τῆι δημιουργίαι συνυφεστῶσαν | 64 Diehl τῶν πραγμάτων, ἣν παράγουσιν ἀπὸ Πειθοῦς καὶ Ἔρωτος, διότι τὸ πᾶν ἐκ νοῦ καὶ ἀνάγκης ἐστίν . . .

Hence also theologists refer one kind of health to Esculapius (Ἀσκληπιός), this being all the medicine of things preternatural (i.e. beyond the ordinary course of nature), whether it perpetually or sometimes only represses a preternatural subsistence. But they generate another prior to Esculapius, which is consubsistent (subsisting together) with the fabrication of things, and which they produce from Persuasion (Πειθώ) and Love (Ἔρως). (Hence, as Plato says,) the universe is from intellect and necessity, (intellect persuading necessity; but necessity being converted to intellect, in order that it may lead all things to that which is best.)”

(trans. Thomas Taylor, 1820)

Lobeck I 593 n. III; Holwerda 304.


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