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ORPHIC FRAGMENT 234

OTTO KERN

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SUMMARY: This fragment, taken out of context by Clement of Alexandria, criticizes bad women.

234. (264) Λόγος Στρώματα Κλήμεντος του Ἀλεξανδρέως VI 2, 5. 3 (II 424, 22 Staeh.):

Ὀρφέως τοίνυν ποιήσαντος·

ὣς οὐ κύντερον ἦν καὶ ῥίγιον ἄλλο γυναικός

Ὅμηρος (Ὀδύσσεια Ὁμήρου 11.427) ἄντικρυς λέγει·

ὣς οὐκ αἰνότερον καὶ κύντερον ἄλλο γυναικός.

“Orpheus, then, having composed the line:

‘Since nothing else is more shameless and wretched than woman,’

“Homer (Ὀδύσσεια Ὁμήρου 11.427) plainly says:

‘Since nothing else is more dreadful and shameless than a woman.’ ”

(trans. William Wilson, 1885)

Lobeck II 952

Ἔργα καὶ Ἡμέραι Ἡσιόδου 702:

(παρθενικὴν δὲ γαμεῖν, ὥς κ᾽ ἤθεα κεδνὰ διδάξῃς.

τὴν δὲ μάλιστα γαμεῖν, ἥ τις σέθεν ἐγγύθι ναίει,

πάντα μάλ᾽ ἀμφιιδών, μὴ γείτοσι χάρματα γήμηις.)

702: οὐ μὲν γάρ τι γυναικὸς ἀνὴρ ληίζετ᾽ ἄμεινον

τῆς ἀγαθῆς, τῆς δ᾽ αὖτε κακῆς οὐ ῥίγιον ἄλλο,

(δειπνολόχης· ἥτ᾽ ἄνδρα καὶ ἴφθιμόν περ ἐόντα

εὕει ἄτερ δαλοῖο καὶ ὠμῶι γήραϊ δῶκεν.)

“(Marry a maiden, so that you can teach her careful ways, and especially marry one who lives near you, but look well about you and see that your marriage will not be a joke to your neighbors.)

702: “For a man wins nothing better than a good wife,

and, again, nothing worse than a bad one,

“(a greedy soul who roasts her man without fire, strong though he may be, and brings him to a raw¹ old age.)”

(trans. Hugh G. Evelyn-White, 1914)

to which Sîmônídîs (Σημωνίδης ὁ Ἀμοργῖνος) observes fr. 6 (Bergk PLG II⁴ 738):

γυναικὸς οὐδὲν χρῆμ’ ἀνὴρ ληΐζεται

ἐσθλῆς ἄμεινον οὐδὲ ῥίγιον κακῆς.

“A man gains nothing better than a good wife

nor worse than a bad one.”

(trans. by the author)

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