ORPHIC FRAGMENT 172 - OTTO KERN

ORPHIC FRAGMENT 172 - OTTO KERN

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SUMMARY: Orphéfs (Ὀρφεύς), in a certain respect, considers the sun to be the same as Apóllôn (Ἀπόλλων).

172. (273) Περὶ τῆς κατὰ Πλάτωνα θεολογίας Πρόκλου VI 12 p. 376, 21:

πρῶτον δὴ τοῦτο κατανοήσωμεν, ὅπως καὶ αὐτὸς (sc. Plato) ὥσπερ Ὀρφεύς τὸν ἥλιον εἰς ταὐτόν πως ἄγει τῶι Ἀπόλλωνι καὶ ὡς τὴν κοινωνιαν πρεσβεύει τούτων τῶν θεῶν. ἐκεῖνος μὲν γὰρ διαρρήδην λέγει καὶ διὰ πάσης, ὡς εἰπεῖν, τῆς ποιήσεως.

“In the first place therefore, let us survey how Plato, in the same manner as Orpheus, considers the sun to be in a certain respect the same as Apollo, and how he venerates the communion of these Gods. For Orpheus clearly says that the sun is the same with Apollo, and asserts this (as I may say) through the whole of his poetry.” (trans. Thomas Taylor, 1816)

Platonis verba Leg. XII 945 e:

κατ' ἐνιαυτὸν ἕκαστον μετὰ τροπὰς ἡλίου τὰς ἐκ θέρους εἰς χειμῶνα συνιέναι χρεὼν πᾶσαν τὴν πόλιν εἰς Ἡλίου κοινὸν καὶ Ἀπόλλωνος τέμενος

“Every year, after the summer solstice, the whole city shall meet in the common precincts of Helios and Apollo...” (trans. Benjamin Jowett, 1892)

ad Orphicorum doctrinam de Apolline – Sole refert Wilamowitz Platon I 416 n. 3. Cautius iudicat. Lob. 1.1. Solque ipse permiscetur cum Apolline, nisi suum nobis somnium narrat Proculus. De Apolline Orphicorum cf. etiam Serv. ad. Verg. Aen. III 98 fr. 4 et fr. 194.

The story of the birth of the Gods: Orphic Rhapsodic Theogony.

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Dictionary of terms related to ancient Greek mythology: Glossary of Hellenic Mythology.

Introduction to the Thæí (the Gods): The Nature of the Gods.

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The logo to the left is the principal symbol of this website. It is called the CESS logo, i.e. the Children of the Earth and the Starry Sky. The Pætilía (Petelia, Πετηλία) and other golden tablets having this phrase are the inspiration for the symbol. The image represents this idea: Earth (divisible substance) and the Sky (continuous substance) are the two kozmogonic substances. The twelve stars represent the Natural Laws, the dominions of the Olympian Gods. In front of these symbols is the seven-stringed kithára (cithara, κιθάρα), the the lyre of Apóllôn (Apollo, Ἀπόλλων). It (here) represents the bond between Gods and mortals and is representative that we are the children of Orphéfs (Orpheus, Ὀρφεύς).

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Dictionary of terms related to ancient Greek mythology: Glossary of Hellenic Mythology.

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