ORPHIC FRAGMENT 163 - OTTO KERN

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SUMMARY: Discussion of the marriage of Gods and the equality of Íra (Ἥρα) and Zefs (Ζεὺς).

163. σχόλιον Πρόκλου επὶ Τιμαίου Πλάτωνος 31a (I 450, 20 Diehl):

ὁ δὲ δημιουγὸς αὐτός, ὁ μέγιστος Ζεύς, συζογεῖ τῆι Ἥραι· διὸ καὶ ἰσοτελὴς αὐτῶι καλεῖται, καὶ ἐκ τῶν αὐτῶν προεληλύθασι πατέρων.

“But the Demiurgus, who is the great Jupiter (Ζεὺς), is conjoined with Juno (Ἥρα). Hence also, she is said to be of equal rank with him, and proceeds from the same fathers.” (trans. Thomas Taylor, 1820)

Cf. in Tim. 18 c (I 46, 27 Diehl) fr. 132 et 41 d (III 248, 30 Diehl):

πηγὴ πάσης τῦς τῶν ψυχῶν προόδου καὶ ἀπογεννήσεως . . . . . πᾶσαν μὲν τὴν | 249 Diehl ὑπερκόσμιον ἀπογεννῶσα ψυχήν, πᾶσαν δὲ τὴν ἐγκόσμιον, προϊοῦσα δὲ ἐπὶ πάντα καὶ ζωιοποιοῦσα καὶ τὸν ὅλον κόσμον, ἣν ὁ μὲν Ὀρφεὺς ἰσοτελῆ τῶι δημιουργῶι (Schneid.] δημιουργικῶι codd.) καλεῖ καὶ συνάπτει καὶ συζεύξας μίαν ποιεῖ μητέρα πάντων ὧν ὁ Ζεὺς πατήρ . . . . .

“...one certain vivific deity (Ἥρᾱ) proceeds from it, which is the fountain of all the progression and generation of souls, (and which being co-arranged with the Demiurgus, produces together with him, the whole psychical order,) every supermundane and mundane soul, and proceeds to all things, and vivifies the whole world. Orpheus celebrates this vivific deity as equal to the Demiurgus, and connecting and conjoining it with him, makes it to be the one mother of all the things of which Jupiter is the father.” (trans. Thomas Taylor, 1820)

Lob. I 539.

Ὀρφεὺς ἐν τῶι περὶ Διὸς καὶ Ἥρας (Orpheus concerning Zeus and Hera) fr. 115; cf. Dion. Prus. XXXVI 56 (II 15, 24 Arn.) τοῦτον ὑμνοῦσι παῖδες σοφῶν ἐν ἀρρήτοις τελεταῖς Ἥρας καὶ Διὸς εὐδαίμονα γάμον (The children sing of wise things for the unspoken rites of the happy marriage of Hera and Zeus)

et σχόλιον Πρόκλου επὶ Τιμαίου Πλάτωνος 18 c. d. (I 49, 12 Diehl):

ἐπεὶ καὶ τὸ τὴν αὐτὴν ἑτέροις ἢ τὸν αὐτὸν πλείοσι συζεύγνυσθαι λάβοις ἂν ἐκ των μυστικών λόγων και των εν απορρήτοις λεγομένων ιερών γάμων, οἷς καὶ ὁ Πλάτων εἰς δύναμιν εξομοιῶν τὰ περὶ τοὺς πολίτας καὶ τοὺς τούτων γάμους ἱεροὺς γάμους προσηγόρευσε (Resp. V 458 e).

“For that the same Goddess is conjoined with different Gods, or the same God with many Goddesses, may be assumed from mystical treatises, and from what are called Sacred Marriages in the Mysteries, which Plato as much as possible imitating in what he ordains about politics and marriages, calls the marriages sacred.” (trans. Thomas Taylor, 1820)



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